Curse

X-DARKFIRE · Jun 07, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41

i just made an MM a while ago and i have noticed a small problem. i find that it is extremely difficult to taregt a single minion if you want to use a skill that only targets one, such as death nova.

am i retarded and am missing a special way to target minions without using the mouse and scrolling over them, or is scrolling over them the only way?

if there is no other way then do you think that anet should empliment some sort of minion target system to make it easier to target minons?

Nivryx · Jun 07, 2006, 01:37 AM // 01:37

not to my knowledge, sry

Ggraphix · Jun 07, 2006, 01:47 AM // 01:47

yes they should, I've only tried to be MM once
and sucked, there should be something to make it easier

/signed

Linksys · Jun 07, 2006, 03:34 AM // 03:34

You mean targeting one of your own minions, a specific one? Would be nice if they were numbered and there was a bar for them, so you can click a square for any certain minion to highlight. Or a side party window for your minions.

TwinRaven · Jun 07, 2006, 03:43 AM // 03:43

Now your know why they call the little pointer a "curser"...

The easiest way I have found to target minions for death nova is to tag them as they spawn from a corpse...other than that...erm...I got nuthin'

strcpy · Jun 07, 2006, 04:23 AM // 04:23

Very much agree, I would like to at least be able to "target closest minion" - at least a beastmaster can click on their pet in their party window. I would say "closest minion" should target your pet if you are a ranger also.

I never could get death nova or Taste of Death (I think - never use it - one where you steal a minions health) to be effective. It took too long to find the fool things and click on them. I usually needed it pretty quick and the minions tend to be clumped up.

While it would be nice to hotkey minion position 1-10, I would just be happy with "target nearest" - "target next minion" would also be very useful. Or a minion life bar like yo get for the rest of the team/pets on the MM's screen.

While this would make certain builds much more viable (minion bomber for one) , interface should never be the balance mechanism.

Jedimagician · Jun 07, 2006, 05:28 AM // 05:28

well right now only way i can think of is looking on your screen and clicking on the minions but since you can only controll 10 minions i think it wouldnt be too confusing to put them on ally list.

Tryll · Jun 07, 2006, 09:02 AM // 09:02

I would just love a system to target your minions. My necro is MM most of the time and never really uses death nova as, by the time you click the correct minion, it's usually already dead. I do agree however, useful as it may be, that listing them as part of the ally window would just be confusing and probably very annoying for your fellow team members. Even your own minions showing up when you press alt would be a great help. I don't see why that can't be implemented easily because enemy minions show up when you press ctrl.

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Originally Posted by strcpy

I never could get death nova or Taste of Death (I think - never use it - one where you steal a minions health) to be effective. It took too long to find the fool things and click on them. I usually needed it pretty quick and the minions tend to be clumped up.

The good news is that you don't actually need to target one of your minions to use Taste of Death unless you want to steal health from a specific one. Otherwise it'll just use your closest minion.

TheYellowKid · Jun 07, 2006, 09:18 AM // 09:18

all it needs to be is a toggable window that only opens when you start creating minions, that way no one else is affected but MM's get the functionality we need to be effective. It would also help knowing when to heal because you could instantly see if any are on low health.

Linksys · Jun 07, 2006, 11:52 AM // 11:52

I don't think the minions should be included in everyone's party menu. I just think it would be cool if MM gamers had an optional second window for their own minions. If there's another MM in the party, they wouldn't have a minion menu for the other MM's minions. One for their own would be enough.

Zakarr · Jun 07, 2006, 11:58 AM // 11:58

Maybe adding keys which are basically same as C and TAB but target ally minions.

...or you hold one key and ally minion party menu opens. Their health bars should be smaller and color coded depending how far they are from you. These could be made in client side so it won't increase server side load.

Linksys · Jun 07, 2006, 12:25 PM // 12:25

Not to go too far with this, but I'd like to see a special button pad to use with the mouse for GW instead of the standard keyboard. With buttons that I can easily feel without having to look down at it, then back at the screen trying to find what I was looking at because the action is moving.

So I can have buttons for the minions window and more. And buttons for the skill bar. I tried to aim for the 1 key, but either press the ` key instead or I have to look for the ` key by feel, then move to the next key for 1. And count my way to other numbers by feel because I don't want to take my eyes off the screen. Puts too much delay in the actions, so I went back to mouse clicking the skill bar on the window which gets tiring. I really want to minimize the amount of mouse moving. I admit that when the party is pretty much invincible and I'm a Ranger, I just press \ for the closest enemy and hit space and let the ranger shoot while I rest my mouse arm. Then repeat.

I edited the layout so that as a Monk, the skill bar is right next to the party window so I only have to move the cursor very slightly to heal party members.

Sometimes when I move my fingers to press and hold Ctrl and Alt to scan the area for enemies, NPC's, team members, and items, I accidently hit the Start key which minimizes the entire game window. It's annoying enough when my virus scanner does that to tell me it's downloading updates.

I tried to switch around the commands to other/additional keys but the layout of the standard computer keyboard simply isn't best for me.

Nitradamus · Jun 07, 2006, 03:49 PM // 15:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwinRaven

Now your know why they call the little pointer a "curser"...

The easiest way I have found to target minions for death nova is to tag them as they spawn from a corpse...other than that...erm...I got nuthin'

Err... I aren't they called cursor?

Jun 07, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41	#1
X-DARKFIRE Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2006	minion targeting i just made an MM a while ago and i have noticed a small problem. i find that it is extremely difficult to taregt a single minion if you want to use a skill that only targets one, such as death nova. am i retarded and am missing a special way to target minions without using the mouse and scrolling over them, or is scrolling over them the only way? if there is no other way then do you think that anet should empliment some sort of minion target system to make it easier to target minons?

Jun 07, 2006, 12:25 PM // 12:25	#12
Linksys Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006	Not to go too far with this, but I'd like to see a special button pad to use with the mouse for GW instead of the standard keyboard. With buttons that I can easily feel without having to look down at it, then back at the screen trying to find what I was looking at because the action is moving. So I can have buttons for the minions window and more. And buttons for the skill bar. I tried to aim for the 1 key, but either press the ` key instead or I have to look for the ` key by feel, then move to the next key for 1. And count my way to other numbers by feel because I don't want to take my eyes off the screen. Puts too much delay in the actions, so I went back to mouse clicking the skill bar on the window which gets tiring. I really want to minimize the amount of mouse moving. I admit that when the party is pretty much invincible and I'm a Ranger, I just press \ for the closest enemy and hit space and let the ranger shoot while I rest my mouse arm. Then repeat. I edited the layout so that as a Monk, the skill bar is right next to the party window so I only have to move the cursor very slightly to heal party members. Sometimes when I move my fingers to press and hold Ctrl and Alt to scan the area for enemies, NPC's, team members, and items, I accidently hit the Start key which minimizes the entire game window. It's annoying enough when my virus scanner does that to tell me it's downloading updates. I tried to switch around the commands to other/additional keys but the layout of the standard computer keyboard simply isn't best for me. Last edited by Linksys; Jun 07, 2006 at 12:34 PM // 12:34..

Jun 07, 2006, 01:37 AM // 01:37	#2
Nivryx Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kenya Profession: Mo/	not to my knowledge, sry

Jun 07, 2006, 01:47 AM // 01:47	#3
Ggraphix Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston Guild: N/A Profession: R/Mo	yes they should, I've only tried to be MM once and sucked, there should be something to make it easier /signed

Jun 07, 2006, 03:34 AM // 03:34	#4
Linksys Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006	You mean targeting one of your own minions, a specific one? Would be nice if they were numbered and there was a bar for them, so you can click a square for any certain minion to highlight. Or a side party window for your minions.

Jun 07, 2006, 03:43 AM // 03:43	#5
TwinRaven Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: W/	Now your know why they call the little pointer a "curser"... The easiest way I have found to target minions for death nova is to tag them as they spawn from a corpse...other than that...erm...I got nuthin'

Jun 07, 2006, 04:23 AM // 04:23	#6
strcpy Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: One of Many [ONE]	Very much agree, I would like to at least be able to "target closest minion" - at least a beastmaster can click on their pet in their party window. I would say "closest minion" should target your pet if you are a ranger also. I never could get death nova or Taste of Death (I think - never use it - one where you steal a minions health) to be effective. It took too long to find the fool things and click on them. I usually needed it pretty quick and the minions tend to be clumped up. While it would be nice to hotkey minion position 1-10, I would just be happy with "target nearest" - "target next minion" would also be very useful. Or a minion life bar like yo get for the rest of the team/pets on the MM's screen. While this would make certain builds much more viable (minion bomber for one) , interface should never be the balance mechanism.

Jun 07, 2006, 05:28 AM // 05:28	#7
Jedimagician Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006	well right now only way i can think of is looking on your screen and clicking on the minions but since you can only controll 10 minions i think it wouldnt be too confusing to put them on ally list.

Jun 07, 2006, 09:18 AM // 09:18	#9
TheYellowKid Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Mina Sucks [Blz]	all it needs to be is a toggable window that only opens when you start creating minions, that way no one else is affected but MM's get the functionality we need to be effective. It would also help knowing when to heal because you could instantly see if any are on low health.

Jun 07, 2006, 11:52 AM // 11:52	#10
Linksys Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006	I don't think the minions should be included in everyone's party menu. I just think it would be cool if MM gamers had an optional second window for their own minions. If there's another MM in the party, they wouldn't have a minion menu for the other MM's minions. One for their own would be enough.

Jun 07, 2006, 11:58 AM // 11:58	#11
Zakarr Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland	Maybe adding keys which are basically same as C and TAB but target ally minions. ...or you hold one key and ally minion party menu opens. Their health bars should be smaller and color coded depending how far they are from you. These could be made in client side so it won't increase server side load.